Tuesday, December 11, 2007

torture -- waterboarding and some follow-up on the murder of Dr. Cornbleet

So now I am going to jump on the waterboarding discussion bandwagon, but not to share my views about it. I've got some facts and even a video to help you decide if waterboarding is torture.

Tonight on 360° it was quite a big topic and Anderson even talked to former Navy Seal and reporter Kaj Larsen, who was waterboarded. Back during World War II Japan used waterboarding as a means of interrogation, we along with many other countries called it torture. A snippet from Anderson's blog says this:

"On the wall of Tuol Sleng prison in Cambodia there are pictures of how the Khmer Rouge used to torture prisoners. I've been to the museum a number of times, and it is a shocking place to go. One of the methods they used was waterboarding. Simulated drowning. It is surprising that the question of whether or not this is torture is one that has become a topic of debate on the campaign trail.

Years ago, when the Khmer Rouge was doing it, no one would have called it anything but torture. Now that the United States is doing it, apparently it's just a 'severe interrogation.' I would say, 'Funny how that happens,' but there is nothing funny about it. This President has repeatedly said, 'We don't torture.'"

However, Sen. John McCain seems to be one of the few who will say that it is indeed torture. In fact the government has always avoided the question and never acknowledged doing it or even whether it's torture or not. According to Jeffrey Toobin these types of means of interrogation will indeed make people talk but they will tell you things that could be true of false. But, without the use of torture it seems that people are more likely to get the truth.

Now onto Kaj Larsen, who had the brilliant idea to go waterboarding. He says that in order to induce drowing they stuff a rag in your mouth and close your nose. The rag prevents you from actually drowning because it absorbs most of the water so only a few drop go down your throat. Larsen said the feeling was like that of being "shackled to the bottom of a pool" and not being able to come up for air. Oh, and they keep your legs raised a little because that supposedly helps to keep you from actually drowning. However, when asked by Cooper if he thought waterboarding was a form of torture, he didn't directly answer it. But he did say "I was fearful for my life." In the case of Mr. Larsen it was all staged, he could say stop whenever he wanted, but knowing that didn't take the fear away. Here's a shortened video from current.com which is where he posted the video of his waterboarding. Just to let you know though, it's 10 minutes long, mostly of talking. And I know my video is bad quality. but it's showing what I wrote about above.




So what do you think, is it torture?



Now onto the follow-up stuff. first I must apologize first for spelling David wrong every time in my first post about Dr. David Cornbleet. And apparently my link didn't work, I now know why. Anyways Dr. Cornbleet was murdered by a man named Hans Peterson who then fled to a French Territory. France refuses to extradite him however and Dr. Cornbleet's family is still fighting for that. So if you want to learn more of voice your opinion on the topic you can go to http://www.drdavidcornbleet.com/. On that site you can even sign a petition, which I did as number 4170. And here's a picture again, it's the same one I posted last time, but I think it's cute and sad.

2 comments:

Unknown said...

It's kind of retarted how the US tries to justify all of its controversial mistakes... I wonder if it would be better to just admit to it and punish the people doing the waterboarding. I definitely would be rather scared, so I think it's tortue.

And the link works I think, but the website doesn't seem to exist. I Google'd it too...

ddrucker said...

The correct link is www.drcornbleet.com

Thanks for the support